Google Pay. He continued:People had lives and were trying to get into college and stuff like that. Related: 7 addictive podcasts to listen to once you're done with Serial. It shouldnt really count against Jay's credibility after 15 years. To which, Wilds responded, [T]his guy drove up in front of my grandmothers house, popped the trunk, and had his dead girlfriend in the trunk. You may be able to find the same content in another format, or you may be able to find more information, at their web site. Undisclosed proffers that Wilds was going to use the reward money to purchase the motorcycle, but Brown says he sold it to someone else. #FreeAdnan #MerryChristmas, I just can't even. When was the first time you hung out with Adnan? He argues that the only people with a right to demand he come forward and tell his story would be Lee's family. If you are searching for something said by (or to) a specific witness said, you could try the smaller files we made for each witness. Jay is involved. Rabia Chaudry is a lawyer and national security fellow at the New America Foundation. And it's hard to imagine, right now, how anyone could be free of doubt about Jay's testimony. Because I knew football had paid for all of that, but there were few football players down there. So that would ruin her life too. Jay feels strongly that he was unfairly depicted by Koenig and that she painted a highly misleading portrayal of him and his role in the case. It's guilt that has to be proven. This is the first part in a multipart interview. They did not tell the defense that someone got an actual cash reward that was handed to them by a detective on the case. Her body was discovered in a city forest three weeks later. Theres also the added fact that Wilds boss at the time told people Wilds had to leave work several times to talk with the police before the date of that official interview. Colin Miller, a law professor who writes at the EvidenceProf Blog, is unsparing in his evaluation of what this does to the state's case. He told the police enough to get them off his back, but he withheld anything he thought might widen their investigation to his friends and his family. Afterward, Adnan dumped Hae's car where it was later found behind some row houses and finally left in his own car, dropping Jay back home. Judge Wanda Heards comments p15. 12 lowendtheory24 6 mo. Read part one of the interview here, and part two here. ago It was the great failing of Serial. We have done best to reduce the size for you, but there are limits because the original quality was fairly poor. I don't know Adnan, andI don't think Jay's lies prove Adnan's innocence. The other thing to understand is something about the culture of Baltimorethis is where the Stop Snitching video comes from. Did you go to Leakin Park immediately after agreeing to help? I don't think that's wrong, it's high school, you know. I was also running [drug] operations from my grandmothers house. Heres everything we know about Jay Wilds before the premiere of HBOs documentary series, The Case Against Adnan Syed. ("Serial" host Sarah Koenig attempted, but failed, to convince Wilds to open up on the podcast. He spoke with The Intercept's Natasha Vargas-Cooper about his version of events on the day Baltimore-area teenager Hae Min Lee was killed in 1999. It takes him about half an hour, 45 minutes, and he comes back with gloves on, panting, like, She was really heavy. Thats all he says. He's now saying, no, Adnan never told me he would do it that day, he just showed up and said Ill be contacting you later. Will we start over?' Your motion for mistrial is granted" - Judge Quarles Trial 2 January 21 to February 25 2000 Defendant: Adnan Syed March 9, 2019 at 2:00 PM. And thats not necessarily mebut that is my family, that is my uncles and cousins. You cant start drawing conclusions like that. And then in his Intercept interview, Wilds said the body was actually in front of his grandmas house, but he told police it was at the Best Buy, because he didnt want to involve his grandma. At the time, this was Maryland in the 90s, the drug laws were extremely serious. And in the hours after Jay's interview broke, her Twitter feed was an almost unbroken celebration. I said, Alright, cool. I dropped him off at school, went to the mall, then when I was done, I go back to my friend Jenns house, where I normally go, sit and smoke with my friend. Jay chose not to be formally interviewed by either This American Life or by Serial host and producer, Sarah Koenig. The following two series stepped away from the whodunnit intensity of the first, and went on to examine an American army deserter and the court system in Ohio. Preliminary matters p2 Then what happens, and what time is it roughly? It went national, but it was produced in Baltimore. "However, I do have a note from Altemate Number 4, 'In view of that fact that you've determined that Ms. Gutierrez is a liar, will she be removed? Take a look at the run down on the forensic evidence in Hae's murder. After the verdict, Gutierrez wouldnt respond to Adnan or his parents, and they asked Judge Heard for help having her dismissed from the case. When I pick him up at Best Buy, hes telling me her car is somewhere there, and that he did this in the parking lot. They had to chase me around before they could corner me to talk to me, and there came a point where I was just sick of talking to them. I know it didnt happen anywhere other than my grandmothers house. I made him smoke one time, he got a little high, got a little weird. Now [Jay] is saying it wasnt 7pm. What we do know about Wilds and Syed, which Syeds testimony confirms, is that Wilds and Syed were together on the day of Lees murder, and Jay had Syeds phone and car for an unspecified period of time. Its starting to get dark, so between 3p.m. "I dont necessarily know if he meant to kill Hae before he did it or if it was a sudden moment thing," he says. And hes like, Ive gotta put her car somewhere. So I follow him around for a few minutes, and he just picks a place at random behind some row houses, leaves her car, gets into his car, takes me home. #FreeAdnan #PerjuryFTW, An infographic is in order to keep track of Jay's lies. What else could motivate you to choke the life out of someone you cared about? I played lacrosse, was a bit of a jock. She looked kinda purple, blue, her legs were tucked behind her, she had stockings on, none of her clothes were removed, nothing like that. )Jay testified that moment happened hours earlier at a completely different location. And Wilds was also a professed accomplice to Syeds crime, which further complicated his role as the prosecutions sole witness. No one is quite sure what they are, but the timing of the taps on the recording seems suspicious. Adnan and Stephanie were also very close witch could be another reason as to why Jay is. Without Jays testimony, the prosecution had no case. Ok, so you arrive at Cathys with Adnan after he tells you he murdered Hae? When Adnan loaned you his car onJan. 13, 1999, did he tell you it was because he planned on murdering Hae? Yes. "You have to remember Jay was a suspect in this case," she says. A detailed investigation into the weight loss app, Is SHEIN bad? Jay Wilds, testimony resumes p122, Discussion: Mr Ss indecent exposure conviction p2 Shes a high school girl, Oh, hes cute, Oh, whateverthings fizzleout. I dont feel comfortable drawing conclusions like that. Jay Wilds was a crucial player in Adnans conviction he testified that Adnan confessed to him about killing Lee, saw Lees body in the trunk of her car, and helped bury her body in Leakin Park. It was midnight. "Jay is the center of gravity in this case. The part about Cathy's apartment is pretty undisputed, though -- Jay, Cathy and Adnan all acknowledge being there that evening. Assessing the truth behind the existence of the mind power, What happened to Kmart? I spoke with Chaudry on Tuesday, and she explained why. Wilds, who was an acquaintance of Syed, confessed to helping Syed bury Lee's body, though he originally denied having anything to do with the murder. And they wouldnt stop interviewing me or questioning me. In one police interview, Wilds said he saw the body, it was in a car in the parking lot of a Best Buy. Jay's interview also undermines very specific charges. When we were digging the hole, its not like Haes body was just lying next to us. Youre in this on your own. Didnt say that much. In HBOsThe Case Against Adnan Syed, Rabia Chaudry, a longtime friend of Adnan and host of theUndisclosedpodcast, talked about the impact of Jays testimony: Jay is the center of gravity in this case. And he wasn't talking. I only smoked with him two or three times. A big part of the Serial podcast is to speculate on Adnans motive. All about the workings of this global humanitarian organization, Was Charles Stanley sick? It is possible that Jay could be lying while Jenn is still telling the truth, I'm not sure they should be put in the "same box" in that regard. Haes car could have been in the parking lot, but I didnt know what it looked like so I dont remember. Wilds has stayed private since the 2014 interview. "If Jay gets pulled over and you're in a car with him and he's dirty or he feels like there's a chance that he's going to go to jail, he's going to try to dump every responsibility for anything onto you," Jay's close friend Christopher Lee Baskerville claimed. #TheJayInterview #ThankYouIntercept #FreeAdnan #PerjuryFTW, So yeah, i'm not sleeping tonight. In another he says it was at Patapsco State Park. The way she moved and went about her day. In the interview, Wilds described seeing Lee, dead in the trunk of a car. Why I believe Jay Wilds. If that paragraph doesn't make much sense to you, then you probably haven't been following Serial, the wildly successful podcast in which Sarah Koenig reopens and reinvestigates the 1999 Baltimore murder case that put Adnan, who was then 17 years old, behind bars for the rest of his life. In one police interview, Wilds said he saw the body, it was in a. Or take the murder itself. on about your day, ask yourself: How likely is it that the story you just read would have been produced by a different news outlet if The Intercept hadnt done it? The call log, though, could maybe support part of Jay's new timeline. So that would ruin her life too, Wilds told Vargas-Cooper. I saw her body later, in front ofof my grandmothers house where I was living. I had cops show up and harass me before at my house. I was pretty distraught, fucked up, feeling guilty for not saying nothing. @YAmericanMuslim Analysis in a nutshell: He can't stop lying. This fact cannot be disputed. I think and, look, its been 15 years about 6 p.m. They didnt have to go by us, except to come to lunch, and that was it. I saw the ATF and DEA take down guys in my neighborhood for selling much less than I was at the time. Jay said:I feel like [Koenig] created an evil archetype of me and sensationalized my motives. ", Chaudry ticks off the changes. Hae was dead before she got to my house. At this point, it's between 3 and 4 p.m. We know: At trial, the "trunk pop" moment allegedly happened at Best Buy. In hindsight, Adnan Syeds conviction for murdering Hae Min Lee was fraught with irregularities. I guess I was being kind of a jury on whether or not people needed to be involved or whatever, but these people didnt have anything to do with it, and I knew they didnt have anything to do with it. Over the course of the 12-episode podcast, reporter Sarah Koenig pointed to several inconsistencies in Wilds statements to police and testimony on the witness stand. He was having a hard enough time with that itself. It doesnt seem like enough of a reason to not talk to the police. Well first of all, I wasnt openly willing to cooperate with the police. Your motion for mistrial is granted Judge Quarles, Judge:Wanda Heard, Associate Judge for Baltimore City Circuit Court. We get into his car, and he drives up around the corner to Haes car. We know: At trial, lot more happened before Cathy's.Before going over to Cathy's, Jay said that he and Adnan dropped Hae's car at the I-70 Park and Ride. I asked him where were going and he says, Didnt you say everyone gets dumped in Leakin Park?. Adnan says, Just help me dig the hole. And Im still thinking, Inner-city black guy, selling pot to high school kids. The cops are going to fry me. Contact Jarett Wieselman at jarett.wieselman@buzzfeed.com. Take my car, take my cellphone. None of his friends thought he reacted particularly badly to the break-up. I wasnt fully cooperating, so if they said, Well, we have on phone records that you talked to Jenn. Id say, Nope, I didnt talk to Jenn. Until Jenn told me that she talked with the cops and that it was ok if I did too. "I said before that the prosecution's case was dead. But look, if we start speculating what he was thinking that far ahead I dont know. He asked me if I had shovels, so I went inside my house and got some gardening tools. I had friends but the groups were small. Syed is currently serving a life sentence. That's over, Chaudry says. She pointed to several apparent discrepancies on Twitter. The first season of Serial ended this month, but the story is far from finished. And they wouldnt stop interviewing me or questioning me, he said of the police, in part one of the interview. He had a professional job in high school, he was aparamedic or something [Ed. While Jay had claimed to first lay eyes on Hae's body in a few different spots in the weeks and months after Hae's disappearance, he testified that the real "trunk pop" moment happened there in the Best Buy parking lot. Hae. Photo: Natasha Vargas-Cooper for The Intercept, Natasha Vargas-Cooper[emailprotected]theintercept.org@natashavc. In keeping with the Serial model, The Intercept says this was part one in a series of interviews with Wilds, so keep an eye on Chaudry's Twitter for further reactions. 2. The popular podcast detailed an investigation into the 15-year-old murder of Hae Min Lee, a popular high school senior in Baltimore. (See page 18-20 of Jan 24 transcript. This led to Quarles declaring a mistrial. I didnt tell the cops it was in front of my house because I didnt want to involve my grandmother. I dont know whether he calls me when hes on his way back to my house, or if he calls me right outside the house. Serial, she said, might be addicting entertainment for most people, but not for her. That's where I'm at with this interview. Philip Buddemeyer Baltimore City surveyor p93 The other thing to understand is something about the culture of Baltimorethis is where the Stop Snitching video comes from. But nor was there good reason to disbelieve Jay. Jay Wilds, Maryland's key (and only) witness at Adnan Syed's 2000 trial for murdering Hae Min Lee which was chronicled on the hotly debated Serial podcast, which launched in October 2014 and completed its 12-episode run earlier this month has consented to a single interview (with The Intercept) in an attempt to tell his side of the story. Many questions remain about Wilds true role in the case, but theres no shortage of theories. Jay suggested going to the mall to find a present for Stephanie, but Adnan said he had to "go do something," and told Jay to drop him at school, letting Jay borrow his car and phone. And the other thing about it, I mean, there looked like there was real hurt and pain. ), In the new interview, Wilds explained his changing accounts of what happened as attempts to spare friends and family -- namely, the grandmother he lived with -- from any involvement in the case. Jay suggested going to the mall to find a present for Stephanie, but Adnan said he had to "go do something," and told Jay to drop him at school, letting Jay borrow his car and phone. He's now. Who would hold party elites accountable to the values they proclaim to have? Its just on the street. After Jay Wilds, the key witness in Adnan Syed's 2000 murder trial and This American Life spinoff Serial, confessed to police he helped Syed bury his ex-girlfriend Hae Min Lee in 1999, he told . The kind of reporting we do is essential to democracy, but it is not easy, cheap, or profitable. But Jay admits he's a liar. He had to give hair and blood samples. A large portion of The Case Against Adnan Syed and Serial focuses on why Wilds would change his story so many times. After the earlier mistrial, Judge Quarles recused himself from sitting for the next trial, and so the case was held before a new judge (Heard) and of course a new jury. Koenig tried to interview Jay. On the sixth day, Judge Quarles and Gutierrez had a disagreement and, despite the white noise machine, members of audience and crucially the jury overheard (p220). Jay Wilds leaves the courtroom p86 I believe I told them it was in front of Cathys [not her real name] house, but it was in front of my grandmothers house. Why is this story different from what you originally told the police? Reporter Sarah Koenig pointed to several inconsistencies in Jay Wilds' statements to police. Maybe Jays a liar. He also stated that Adnan drove Hae's car from the I-70 Park and Ride to a nearby McDonald's, where Jay was waiting in Adnan's car. It was just at the end of my junior year, so about 16. "This completely destroys the state's case. Thats about burying her. But, like I said, I dont know how to come up with this story about how Adnan did it, why he did it, what he was thinking, how he was thinking, and why he was thinking that. Defendant: Adnan Syed I was also around a bunch of people earlier the day [at Cathys], and I didnt want them to get fucked up with homicide. Jay says: Adnan probably wasn't with Hae's car at Best Buy. Matt Tinoco provided research for this interview. I was also around a bunch of people earlier that day [at Cathys], and I didnt want them to get fucked up with homicide., Jay painted his lying as an act of altruism. Anything that makes Adnan innocent doesnt involve me, he said. Support our mission and help keep Vox free for all by making a financial contribution to Vox today.

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