I agree with you, why doesnt she simply say I couldnt see him and give specificity to her words.Adrian. Another update, on top of the ongoing search for remains. Deputy State Coroner Grahame will hand down her findings at the NSW Coroner's Court on June 18, 2021. William's foster parents have both vehemently denied any involvement in his disappearance. June 26 - The forensic search continues on what would have been William's seventh birthday. The foster mother, 56, and foster father, 54, were charged in November 2021 in relation to the alleged assault of a child at a home on Sydney's north shore. Other peoples kids that may watch 3. William Tyrrell's sister tells inquest into his disappearance she will William Tyrrell's foster-mother has given her account of what happened the day he disappeared By crime reporter Mark Reddie Posted Fri 19 Nov 2021 at 12:18pm William's foster-mother told an inquest in 2019 that he was playing a game he called "tigers' before he disappeared. Autumn your right the transcript of that interview (which I hadnt seen) is not accurate at all. Following inquiries, the foster parents legal representatives were served Court Attendance Notices on Wednesday. In that case they couldnt have been out there talking.I think the grandmother backed the foster parents story. Isabella Ross. OP: Alright I'm just going to bring that up on my map I won't be a moment. Secondly we could believe the usage of the word just(thats all/only) as genuine which would mean that all they did was drive round. The wife is a very strong personality; the husband is the weak link. In my last post I listed all language connected with roads and crossing roads. In the Police interview she tells us Williams sister must learn to be an [only child]. She could have said many other things like the world just Stopped or came to a standstill. And then she was, like, can we go to bed? Public confusion about William's family was immediate as, instead of a tearful family before the TV cameras begging for his return, a family friend stood awkwardly by then Local Area Commander Paul Fehon. August - Investigation leaderDetective Chief Inspector Gary Jubelin and a sergeant get into a disagreement during a briefing. To hide Williams body? More details emerge over home invasion attempted murder. However, I listened to the actual interview on youtube (see here -> the quote starts at 12:00) and she clearly stutters. He was deceptive due to substance abuse, passed out on the couch, while the child was able to let herself out of the house. NCA NewsWire. What if she fell and hit her head? I drove my Corolla out in the boonies, over boulders, and Zac took the truck and he took the binoculars and then, you know, two-hour point. The coronial inquest has been delayed for another eight months with the next round of hearings happening in March 2020. Nanna's house sits on top of a hill and the driveway is going somewhat down. PUT HIM IN A WELL. August 24- William's foster child status is revealed after a landmark court ruling. If they were not on the patio, where were they sitting on two chairs. Good link David. On September 12, 2014, William Tyrrell was playing with his older sister in the garden of his foster grandmother's home, while his foster mother watched on. Instead, she starts by explaining why she took photos of him that morning. dont show enough signs of concern about Williams well-being in the police interview (in the 60 minutes interview a little more). In that case, she had to leave William alone in the tree (she couldnt hold him since she had to take some distance to take the photo). Why would bad Mommy do that? But then weakens her statement by saying she was dozing off and waking up. Melissa Guse Sean hannityThe beginning of the message looks ok in my opinion. Seventy-four per cent of children who are abducted and murdered by strangers are killed within three hours of being abducted, the court heard. A quote from William Tyrell inquest:"It was [like] a scream. Her language has told us on a number of occasions she wasnt. In the transcript (thanks Autumn) they talk about tree's and how he doesn't like heights Did he fall?if he was out there in the bush, he would have been found, which you know, as I was walking through the bush with other people, it became more aware to me as time went on that this is not a normal event. Then she said I drove my Corolla and Zac took the truck. By not answering, she shows sensitivity to that question as well. His status as a foster child wasn't even confirmed to the public until three. The parents went through a working with children check, interviews with social workers about why they wanted to foster a child, and an examination of their capacity to keep a child safe. Maybe because that would be a direct lie? The Bank Holiday excitement is a bit too much for some! confidential information about children in care if it's in the best interests of the child. I just want to help find her. So we ask who and where is the [other daughter] she introduced in the emergency call. Bishop PD, CHP flying overthey had their copter today. There are no well shafts in that forest here in Australia. It`s a strange thing to say that a three year old wouldn't "even" cross the street by himself". "I hear a roar [from William] and then I hear nothing. I think if she had been interviewed by a friendly detective she could have been coaxed to confess to what had gone on. On Thursday they picked William and his sister up from daycare for the 4-hour drive to Nanna's house. William's hair is long now and can be parted? These attacks were on top of experiencing something "no parent should ever have to endure," the court heard. Maybe Karlie didnt leave in a car but her dead body may have -> in that case Karlies physical remains left in a car/vehicle. It is just something that happened to them - not who they are. I think most people would think the opposite, like: "Okay, I can sit back for a moment because the authorities are doing everything they can to find her. She was last seen at 6:30 a.m., today Saturday October 13th. "These kids are the responsibility of the state, but they are not everyones property.". Autumn. If I was to tell someone I have nothing to say they should think then why the hell did you open your mouth. "They went as far as to make serious threats against our lives and one person was imprisoned for such threats.". When a child over the age of 14 disappears without obvious signs of foul play, apathy settles in quickly with law enforcement. March 2- Police fruitlessly search an area of bushland near Bonny Hills for three days after a tip-off. Most people would say about or around when giving a time reference as an approximation, but the fathers use of the word within stands out. His mother, who has two other sons that remain in her care to this day, previously told Daily Mail Australia she 'doesn't want anyone's sympathy'. Hair missing?? She closes with Im bein real which is like throwing the kitchen sink at the job of convincing everyone. It's very interesting. She is clearly trying to correct him i.m.o. That is three hundred seconds. His biological parents, whose names have since been suppressed by the inquest into William's disappearance, suffered baseless accusations. Did they break or take a turn at Laws to hide Karlies body?-I know her and she wouldnt leave for this long! So there are simply more opportunities for mothers to cause accidents to their children (compared to fathers).Adrian, in the police interview the foster mother says "No" when the foster dad says the last time he saw William was 10:15 AM (it's not in the transcript). By "My other daughter", seemed odd to me too when finding out she only mentions William and his sister. His foster parents are reported to be persons of interest in the case, December 15, 2021: Police reveal a bone fragment of unknown origin has been found in the search ahead, and are planning to wrap up the search by the end of the week, By Did she ponder the possibility of blaming Williams disappearance on suspicious strangers? The family returned to Sydney in early August and William was attending day care at a north shore child centre. Perhaps William tried to get out of the tree by himself? Why can't you find him? and I said He's gone. This suggests that karlie did leave in a car and Melissa knows it.If you read the sentence back putting I instead of you it all makes sense. I never believed the kidnapper-scenario. She commits to it with the pronoun I, uses negative language and then tells us literally what is on her mind.Adrian. Find support services in your state or territory. )She then tells and shows how, when she want to "close the door" it would slam closed. I want to have a look at it when I get time. Why hide an accidental death? Why have they been labelled by some as vigilantes? Leigh you make some excellent observations about the case. "William's empty car seat next to his sister's in the back seat absolutely tore our hearts," she said. This other daughter could have been visiting her grandmother at the same time as William and other family members.As far as I am aware on the morning of Williams disappearance there was the mother, father, grandmother and Williams sister at the property. Mystery bag found in search for missing three-year-old William Tyrell In analyzing the two statements, her first one (October 13, 2018) flags for deception much easier. I think she sold him to a pedo.That is why she kept saying he was wearing bright colors, you couldn't not see him. There is a lot of backstory involved in this case. And he was playing on the, the grass ()It seems so weird to say sitting on two chairs. The question produced a halting or repetition on the word "no", which increases the import of the question. The order of recall is like you said a total mess. I'm glad you understood where I was coming from. There is a documentary on YouTube called AUSTRALIAN BIGFOOT: The Vanishing of William Tyrell 2017. He places himself at the scene.This is a classic example of how people minds automatically try to make sense of what they are being told, how we end up helping a liar by finding a way to makes their lies make sense. Hit by ax? The woman appeared in court on Thursday, accused of lying to the NSW Crime Commission. If you have no idea then you can say nothing because there is no thought to create the words with.We have the same problem with we know nothing about it. Is she trying to convince that she was there the entire time? Maybe he mentioned White Mountains because its the opposite of her real location? I don't, I don't know what she's got and if she's out in the desert, it's hot here. William's birth father had seen his son only a month before the boy vanished on September 12, 2014. She expands on it later in the call we heard him, around the garden and then, I thought oh I havent heard him. This link has the foster dad's police interview, can this be analysed pleasehttps://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/news/video-1889904/Video-Moments-William-Tyrrells-disappearance-described-father.html. The father shows sensitivity to the timing of his actions. We are no longer accepting comments on this article. William Tyrrell was last seen playing at his foster grandmothers home in northern New South Wales in September 2014, when he was three years old. Although I am not convinced of that. If so then there is a possibility that the mother had some sensitivity towards her connection to the children which came out in her language. She did not get the number plates, because the cars were not significant to her at that time she said tearily. And, now I can release more information about the events, just, lots of questions that I haven't been allowed to talk about because of the investigation. And of course, he would not have had Little Tara while "climbing" the tree.Mother has only Little Tara now to remind her of William while she mouths disgusting lies and slobbers with fake grief. Did the person go missing in a high crime area? I just watched the interview with the father.He says "He was wearing bright clothes. The confusion Karlie exhibited may have been due to a head injury. He is standing up, she can see his part. She never asked for help for William. 'We took our role very seriously to provide a loving caring supportive home for him. Why does she not say something more specific, such as, I know it was at least five minutes before I realised he was missing.? The problem is differentiating between legitimate and deceptive use. (Inaudible) saw sitting down (points at porch). I.e. So if Zachary indeed said that, maybe he wanted to steer attention in a direction opposite from Karlies actual location? He was a boisterous and energetic child and his sometimes unruly behaviour with other children at child care became of concern the foster mother. Adrian, the stories were for information purposes only -> I don't find them believable (I had already scanned through them a few days ago). William Tyrrell's sister has spoken publicly for the first time, telling the inquest not enough is being done to find her brother. We don't know where he is. I think it would be fair to say though that most people would realise that if they said my daughter was high on drugs, acting weird and vanished they may not meet with a sympathetic response.We have the misspelled nwver (never) when hasnt or didnt could have been used. William disappeared from his foster-grandmother's front yard in the sleepy town of Kendall on the NSW Mid North Coast on September 12, 2014, while on a visit with his foster-family. No parent would make that mistake verbally and become "confused" about whether their son is female or not. She stops him from talking about it and takes over.She says and I remember saying can you see daddys car? The inquest heard how a man who claims he saw William Tyrrell unrestrained in the back of a speeding car on the day the child went missing was waiting for police to interview him to tell them what he saw. We were going to wait for him to come home and then we were going to go and visit Dads grave, then we were going to go out, so wed planned the day. I am wondering if there are significant enough differences between American English and British/Australian English? I might have missed it but I havent noticed them taking responsibility for anything here.Adrian. To say you have to do something is different from actually doing it. She had just made herself a cup of tea when she realised the little boy had gone quiet. I have posted suppositions and opinions and thoughts in this comment section that were based on the words of a statement but not on SA principles. CASEY ANTHONY: God, I just want to go home. Was/were the foster mother and/or Nanna in Nannas car while William disappeared? Her choice of the word roaring causes me to wonder if he was too loud for her. Was he making noise, but something happened to stop him from making noise? However, I have a strong feeling (unfortunately not based on principles, merely on her words and intonation) that she knows what happened to William. I wouldnt expect someone to say they heard something that felt like anything.She uses the word felt which describes something which can be experienced either physically through touch or emotionally through feelings. The friend was trying to share a problem without telling the full truth and my daughter figured out that he had been sexually abused by his step mother! Why? 'Up until the beginning of the year William called me Mum. Flooding?Environmental conditions: Does the missing person suffer from adult autism, or has mental retardation? But there was always something missing - a child and family of her own. Thats what I believe, what I truly believe now, and I still pray to this day that hes alive.Revised:This is not a child gone missing in the bush. Some recent posts (by advanced analysts? . Why cant I see the red?So strange. Autumn pointed out the statement because I dont know what to do to consider her a missing person. "Out" as in "dead"? Why was mother going through William's hair with a comb?Why is the freckle vivid in her mind since it is normally hidden by his hair?Shaved head?He is wearing a "spiderman "outfit"?Pajamas? It could be significant that she chose to pass over the question about shoes, in favour of giving a description of a hidden birthmark, visible only when the hair is parted to the left. Scared they fall out and will hurt themselves or worse. I am just listening to the Nancy grace interview Leigh linked to.The parents were not very helpful at all. CASEY ANTHONY: There`s a possibility. William's foster mother does not like the Spider-man suit image of William which has become synonymous with his case, saying it is a 'bittersweet' reminder of the lost boy, The foster parents were careful about William's nutrition, but allowed him (above) a fast food stop at McDonald's at the halfway point en route to Kendall the day before he vanished. 'Once again we are forced to watch others objectify William for personal gain fake news causes more heartache for William's loved ones.'. What is her story of events?Why didn't she call her husband? The fact that Melissa cannot recall the events correctly points to her fabricating (very badly) her story. Im on here to share more info. The image has a 'created time' of 7.39am and a 'corrected time' of 9.37am, a new document from the 2000-page evidence brief. Not only because of the parents statements but also because the kidnapper(s) would have to have been clairvoyant to know that William was there. (function(d, s, id) { var js, fjs = d.getElementsByTagName(s)[0]; if (d.getElementById(id)) return; js = d.createElement(s); js.id = id; js.src = "//connect.facebook.net/en_GB/sdk.js#xfbml=1&version=v2.10"; fjs.parentNode.insertBefore(js, fjs);}(document, 'script', 'facebook-jssdk')); A long journey some truth and transparency is finally here no stone unturned. "Like water, followed the path of least resistance."Underground. If I gave the same answer as before an experienced detective may feel I was withholding information by my use of the word just. Thursday's charge is the latest in a string. I can feel it. This is a general question-is there a forum where other statements from cases can be analyzed by everyone? Have they blamed themselves for what has happened? And does she know what cruelty happened?Autumn, Another facebook message by Melissa ( Moms refers to herself):Moms gut instinct is that she is passed out in the foothills or she was taken by someobevoff [sic] hwy 6 most likely going north.Autumn, OT Madeleine McCann documentary (5 parts)https://youtu.be/lhACS6ck-Dw (part 1)https://youtu.be/fRQQWmpiO3s (part 2)https://youtu.be/dXtBWNCFt7U (part 3)https://youtu.be/na4aBr5PTYY (part 4)https://youtu.be/EpaiVpHOFKg (part 5). "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCjYbYrSqpg 4mins-David. [Ah hes in, hes in, hes in his bright clothes. OT-Background information: October 13, 2018, Karlie Guse, a 16-year-old from Chalfant, CA vanished sometime in the early morning from her father (Zac) and stepmother's (Melissa) home. He told the inquest he contacted police but did not hear back about an interview. The first story has interesting quotes from the foster mother. "Yes, it could be possible.Note the increase in tension ("walking") body posture associated with the "bush""I was walking through the bush". What was the color of their car?Autumn. We expect the mother to give that time but she doesnt, she actually adds distance to the event by saying that morning and being non-specific.We expect the father to say that last time he saw William was prior to going to his meeting which I dont know the time of but it would have been much earlier. She says a.o. She does return to his question with I thought it could be five, it could be longer. Without being asked , she reports the reason why, cause he was just playing around here. She is preempting the question of why she isnt sure how long her son has been missing, adding to the sensitivity of timing. He was not at the grandmother's house at that time supposedly to get better phone reception.Also, interestingly, at 12:03 in the first part of the interview it is as if the foster mother has a slip of the tongue saying William is dead. But the most interesting part of the above quote is yet to come. Ever! -> Is this (i.e. Video taken before he vanished showed him calling his foster dad, who cannot be identified for legal reasons, 'daddy', and the couple refer to themselves as William's mum and dad. On Monday, it was revealed William's foster mother is being investigated as a person of interest. I have also transcribed Melissas first FB Live statement from the day Karlie disappeared and her sensitivity to all things car related continues. Inside the William Tyrrell inquest - News.com.au The question is why did the foster mother come up with two cars instead of one? Mum and I are talking, and I still hear nothing and I think 'That's really weird.' Melissa immediately went to Facebook and made many live videos related to the search for Karlie. I just dont find it believable. expected would be to describe his clothing and appearance for the police and or public to be on the lookout for. William, his sister and mum go outside to play and explore in Nannas expansive backyard.Foster mother: I thought Id see if he wanted to climb some trees so I was holding him up and saying Do you want to climb a tree? and he was like No mummy, too high. In my previous post I looked at Melissa saying:and got in our cars and just started driving all aroundI said if we took just as minimising language then we could interpret the words to mean [all we did was drive around]. William, 3, was wearing a Spider-Man suit when he vanished from his foster-grandmother's home in the NSW Mid North Coast town of Kendall on September 12, 2014. And she's not disor-disoriented anymore, if she is. So we then would read the words as meaning all we did was drive around. Possible kidnappers had no way of knowing if and when an opportunity would arise to kidnap William. The minister had a duty of care to keep William safe until he was 18. After all, the police seems to be buying the abduction story.Autumn. Regarding the abduction scenario and the cars the mother remembered six days later. William Tyrrell's foster parents face 2023 hearing - The New Daily There is no suggestion that his foster family or the Department of Family of Community Services are in any way responsible for his disappearance. I think you are right we need to take a good look at everything again and see what else there is that connects to William being run over by his father. We see at the end -[so] he wouldnt be in a treeWe expect an innocent person to simply answer the question with something like No, he doesnt climb trees but the mother feels the need to deny and explain any possibility of it.Why, why dont you try? - Difficulty in getting her words out with the repeated/ stutter of words.I think we all agree there is negligence involved here, and due to it most likely an accident occurred and was covered up. Right after William had disappeared, the foster mother reportedly told one of the neighbors William had hit his head. Was the foster mother out there talking with her sister and Nanna? Sometimes it gets stronger as you get older. Maybe the foster mother said "I've just walked out" because she saw the porch/patio as part of the house. Thats ok. So he's been missing since about 10:30?Foster Mother: Yeah I'd say so.If we look at the Police media interview: http://williamtyrrelldisappearance.blogspot.com/2015/10/in-their-words-william-tyrrells-parents.htmlWe see the parents asked the following question.P: When did you guys last see him?M: That morning, on the 12th at Mums place.D: About [10.15am].The father was meant to have been at a meeting and arrived home to find William gone but we see in his answer he places he last sighting of William at 10:15. It's time for William to come Posted by W4W Walking Warriors Australia onThursday, 24 August 2017. She obviously doesnt as she approximates. 'Life will never be the same': Families give statements at William Often, but not always this is domestic violence. The call from Mum to the washing machine repairman (sex offender) asking if the new part had come in may have been a "code".WAs William trafficked? [She was awake]If she was there hanging out why would we need to be told she was awake. Kate takes Charlotte to watch Cinderella at the Royal Opera House ahead of her 8th Strike-hit NHS hospital has to SHUT intensive care beds after nurses ignored union's last-minute plea to 'Grandpa King is adorable!' Deception IndicatedAdrian, I have wondered the same thing. (con't). 'As foster carers you look after the children that you're asked to look after, loving the children for who they are,' she told the 'Walking for William' podcast. By saying red, red, red, she consciously refers to the Spiderman outfit, but I wondered: is she reliving a bloody accident (red, red, red, etc).As for the burnt out car in the woods: if this was really the car William was abducted in -> would the kidnapper hide the car in the woods near the crime scene and leave it there for several years? Simply put they are telling us what they want us to know and nothing more.Adrian. It is an unusual word to use when describing the noise one child makes while playing outside.Foster Mother: No, no, no, no well not that I no not that I'm aware of. He'd told a chemist 'I need them (pills) because I lost my son seven years ago', and reportedly began to cry. Brittany Chain For Daily Mail Australia William's biological parents, who cannot be named, sat quietly in the front of the court while his foster-grandmother wiped away tears as the last photo of him - dressed in the Spider-Man suit - was shown on the screen. If she knows William was not abducted her mind would tell her no, not possible. Sounded more like her IDing his dead body, than describing a living boy. 1. Im walking around in a circle on the spot thinking, where is he, why cant I see him, and Im yelling out, William, where are you, you need to talk to Mummy, tell me where you are, I cant see you, I cant hear you, where are you?, ()If William had just disappeared and the foster mother was looking for him, why would she walk in a circle on the spot asking herself why cant I see him. We have to ask what was so big a problem in reporting karlies death to the Police, were there signs of abuse or were they just scared of all the negative attention they were going to get for not preventing it.Adrian. She began with "I", but then needed a pause ("well") and then a weak commitment, ("I think") and then she moved to the plural ("we've") after another pause ("well"). Then six years ago, a "monstrous crime" happened, in the words of his foster father.

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